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I live in Pennsylvania, not far from where this happened. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club. No show. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. February 29, 2020. I comment on these forums because they are the only places offering the opportunity to, hopefully, bring awareness to those whore unfamiliar with this case and her unfair plight. Its not logical to say we know the truth unless we seen it for ourselves. The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. Have you read the book? Patricia is not guilty of this horrible crime she was railroaded by her ex and the cops. Unbloody vehicle. She likely SUFFOCATED him to get revenge on the babys father who was planning on leaving her. They were able to match 5 hairs all the same micro DNA which happened to match the DNA pulled from blood samples Pat gave. I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! I hope she rots in hell. Patricia Rorrer was wrongfully convicted of Murder. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! She should have received the death penalty imo. Patricia Rorrer will burn in hell, as she should. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. Prosecutor pounds away. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! Your email address will not be published. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. Pal stays true. Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? Search is on. The victims vanished on December 15. One of Patricia's alibis was that she was at a bar on the night of the abduction. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. But because there is no author of this page, I would like you to contact me on the Free Patricia Rorrer facebook page. If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. Although I would have liked it to be death! You people are fighting a losing cause! Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. So, lets take your response one step at a time. all other evidence was purely circumstantial. It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. . In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. Sad discovery. WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. I hope it was only sloppiness of language choice, I refer to your comment of December 22, 2020 at 1:04 pm in which you state, I quote.Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty.. After researching this case more thoroughly, I stand corrected about the time it took the jury to return a verdict. Patricia Rorrer was tried and convicted of two counts of first-degree murder and two counts of kidnapping in March 1998, in Lehigh County Court of Common Pleas, for the murder of Joanne Katrinak and her infant son. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. No other suspect has existed that would have a motive to kill Joann. You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. I believe in Patricias innocence and she deserves to be freed, at last! in tandem with no evidence of home invasion. They were people that knew her, not Andrew. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. Youll have to make do with what you see here. And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! It seems so, according to you. Still, no good leads materialized. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. Thats not proof theyre right but its more likely that you as one person are wrong. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. I agree. Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. 5 years prior to all this happening! The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. Proven in court and sentence awarded!!! They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. Im more sure of Routiers guilt. Answer 1 of 3: My Thai wife put her foot down - despite Covid-19 were are going sightseeing, or else. And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. I thought the same. It was just assumed to be crib death. PATRICIA RORRER, : : Petitioner : v. : CIVIL ACTION NUMBER 19-01398 : WENDY K. NICHOLAS, : : Respondents : MOTION FOR DISCOVERY AND CONSOLIDATED MEMORANDUM OF LAW . The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. A documentary on Youtube Judges for Justice shows a clear case of evidence tampering with regard to the hair. She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. The witness, Traupman, who on several occasions attempted to have his evidence recorded was severely manhandled out of the police station and so badly beaten, he had to be hospitalised. And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. Patricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. First it was winter, cold temperatures preserve bodies for significantly longer periods. Catherine Im in complete agreement with you! The difference was made by the investigation, Interpol has some good detectives who do not play with peoples freedom and who do not use American techniques such as pictures, lets compare hair color after pictures bullshit, not even with the performance of todays cameras such a thing is not allowed, the issue of dismantling the alibi only with indirect evidence, like that her name was not in the notebook, a European court would withdrew it immediately, you cant go with a thing like this, its called inconclusive proof, even the fact that one of the witnesses said that the business was not opened where she said it was that day, its inconclusive, the accused can say that he/she forgot, was there and left, and his alibi I dont know how it was verified, but what should been verified first were the contacts between him and her, if he contacted her before that, if she had been contacted from public phone for example before the murder, how many times, when etc, if he was near the places where she was until the murder, things like that. Ms. The victims vanished on December 15. And then there are documentaries (video and audio) which, by all accounts, stick to the facts and make a compelling case for her innocence. I dont even know its Christmas.. I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. She failed miserably to convince me, or anyone else who mattered, of her innocence.. Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. Ive found that in nearly every case, those who are firmly of the opinion shes guilty have an extremely limited knowledge of the case theyve watched one (or perhaps more) of the documentaries which make absolutely no attempt to show anything thats in Rorrers favour (theres plenty, if one bothers to look), and worse, revel in exaggerated and speculative scenes, some of which were never even mentioned at her trial. Then you claim this is an opinion. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. No charmed life. Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? I was so excited that I called everyone, and Joanne picked up the phone and she said Andy is married, and I said I know, then she said we have a baby, and I said yea I know, then she said dont ever call here again. In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. Rorrers filed multiple appeals over issues you raise, the latest recently and rejected. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. With Joann Katrinak, Alex Katrinak, Patricia Rorrer. Docket at pp. I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. Omg so well put! That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? She is sitting in Muncey Women's Correctional Facility for over 23 years now for something. Book her. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. None. I accept there are a couple of remarks which can be seen that way but they are in direct response to those whove been offensive in the first place. At 6 a.m. on June 24, 1997, police arrested Patricia at her modest house in Linwood, North Carolina, and took her back to Pennsylvania. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. This is untrue. Its perfectly understandable that one should feel sorry for the victims of this heinous crime. She was also accused of breaking into barns, stealing horses, and underfeeding the ones she owned. All of them returned without a DNA analysis because they contained no root material. If the answer is no, enough said! There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Meanwhile, interest in Patricias plight continues on social media. Patricia Rorrer: Under the Microscope. If Rorrer is innocent, she is a victim of a terrible miscarriage (terrible relatively because she is regarded as a child-killer and has been incarcerated for a many years) which I hope is corrected as soon as possible. Police say Rorrer put a .22-caliber bullet in the mother's head, strangled the baby and placed him . Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. She just stayed in touch with everybody, Kathy Barber said in her interview on NBCs Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports in 2017. Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. Locked up. After a successful first season, Starz has announced that Wrong Man season 2 will premiere on Sunday, Feb. 9 at 9:45 p.m. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. He is the guilty one. I attack only those whove considered themselves not only judges on this case, but go on to vent their spleen aimed at a person who in my opinion is innocent of this crime, based on all Ive read and watched without fear of retaliation If they so freely attack someone in the most vicious way, why should they be off limits? Ep 204 - Patricia Rorrer: Under the Microscope TV-MA | 52 MINS | 2020 Patty Rorrer is convicted of the kidnapping and murder of her ex-boyfriend's wife and infant son, but "Wrong Man" investigators discover that the case is not so clear cut. Rorrer has appealed her conviction several times and her supporters believe additional DNA. You know whats interesting? For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. Whatever the truth is. Keep up your delusions. I cant lose them, he told the media. This witness was never revealed to Rorrers defence. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? This woman was motivated by an obsession with a man who no longer wanted her. Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. Most damning of all the evidence is the hair which was DNA matched to Rorrer which was instrumental in her conviction. Some people are just monsters. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. This Sunday, Investigation Discovery and velvety-voiced Dateline NBC correspondent Keith Morrison will revisit the double-homicide. We lived close to one another. They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. It was Patricias hair no question. Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. They found several specimens but not a single one was a match. Prosecutors offered Patricia a plea deal that would take the death penalty off the table, but she declined. It was a really perfect day with cloudless sky and temperature at about 20 C. I expected to be riding the local transportation a lot since my wife is not. They moved into her house in Salisbury County, staying together for about two years. Am I supposed to believe that she was still so enraged a week later, that she drove almost 10 hours, in a conspicuous van with a bad U-joint, to kill this woman and her baby? If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. Yet, you have a story like Darlie Rutier who supposedly stabbed herself seriously enough that was centimeters from her carotid artery, yet this woman is in prison still? The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. humboldt county fence regulations, why is koa spelled with a k,
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